SPOONER, WI — One of DrydenWire’s live shows is getting a fresh identity and a new direction.
Formerly known as That’s Debatable, the show has officially been rebranded to “Make it Make Sense”, while keeping its familiar hosts: DrydenWire founder Ben Dryden and North of Eight Design & Marketing founder Emily Gall.
While the chemistry between Dryden and Gall remains the same, the format is evolving. Each month, the hosts will be joined by a guest who will help break down complex or confusing topics in a way that’s easy to understand.
At its core, the show leans into curiosity and honesty.
“There are a lot of things we don’t understand,” the hosts say. “And we’re not afraid to admit that and ask someone smarter than we are to make it make sense.”
The new format will feature conversations driven by real questions from the hosts, along with live viewer interaction. Audiences tuning in during the broadcast will be able to comment, ask questions, and share their perspectives in real time.
WHEN & WHERE TO WATCH
“Make it Make Sense” will air live on DrydenWire’s Facebook page on the first Thursday of every month at 8:30a CST. Each episode will run approximately 45 minutes. A full replay will be available later the same day on DrydenWire’s YouTube channel and DrydenWire.com.
FIRST EPISODE: MAY 7, 2026
The debut episode of “Make it Make Sense” will stream live on Thursday, May 7, 2026, featuring a timely and often-debated topic: energy.
Dryden and Gall will be joined by Paul Schecklman, who will help unpack questions surrounding Wisconsin’s rising utility costs—why bills are so high and what, if anything, is being done about it.
The conversation will also dive into the increasingly controversial issue of AI data centers. According to Schecklman, public sentiment has shifted heavily against such developments, calling it a “95/5 issue,” with strong opposition dominating the discussion. He brings a unique assessment of electricity and AI, combining national security imperatives with economic opportunities.
Viewers can expect a balanced look at both the pros and cons of data centers, as well as straightforward explanations to the questions many are already asking.
THIS MONTH’S GUEST: PAUL SCHECKLMAN
Paul Schecklman is the co-founder and director of Northwoods Policy Network, an advocacy organization that places the Northwoods first. He is a doctoral student in Defense & Strategic Studies, focusing on energy security, nuclear deterrence, and industrial policy. His final project, Energy as a Determinant of National Power & Criticality for Strategic Deterrence, will be published in fall of 2026. Paul is also a senior fellow with the Wisconsin Veteran Business Alliance where her performs research and advocacy strategies. He has spent considerable time advocating for stronger conservation practices and balance in the state. Paul lives in Cumberland, WI with his wife and daughter.
Paul spent over a decade as a firefighter/paramedic and SWAT medic in Wisconsin. Here he developed an interest in improving opportunity and outcomes for more Americans to reduce the number of crises he responded to. Paul holds a Masters in Public Service and Administration from the Bush School of Government at Texas A&M. He has worked on public policy campaigns throughout the state and consults on current or future issues frequently.
For viewers looking for real conversations, honest questions, and expert insight—without the jargon—“Make it Make Sense” aims to do exactly what its name promises.
Last Update: May 06, 2026 2:27 pm CDT
